Is this a genuine Porsche Design by Orfina BUND chronograph?

Quote from travis1963

Hmm, ist ein schwieriger Fall. Die Bund Gravur könnte man noch so durchgehen lassen. Was bemängelst Du? Das PD Logo?

Gruß,

Walter

Die Vers.Nr. mit der runden 3 passt nicht zum Nummernkreis 23XX. Die Typografie der Worte PORSCHE DESIGN und ORFINA sowie die vertikalen Abstände zwischen Gravuren passen teils ebenfalls nicht.

Quote from travis1963

Hier gibt es wieder etwas zur gefälligen Beurteilung für die Orfina Kenner. Was meint ihr zu dieser PD Bund?

Gruß

Walter

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Hallo Walter,

von vorn soweit alles stimmig, bei den Gravuren auf dem Gehäuseboden leider weniger.

Grüße

Quote from uhrmehl

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Never seen that Dial made in China

I try to understand

did this watch is a clone counterfeit one ?

Since when China Counterfeit vintage 70's watches ?

Quote from MarcusH

Hi Maarten,

I think the tachymeter bezel and the french french day (MAR - Mardi, MER - Mercredi) disc make it unlikely that this watch is a BUND.

But let‘s hear, what the profs like cooljam of travis1963 can say.

Marcus

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Thank for your input Marcus, the days are not fresh but Italian, does that change anything in your opinion?

Thanks for all your input.

I was hoping for more positive reaction

I know the story of the backplate sounds questionable, but i just couldn't believe this seller made his story up. But apparently I was wrong. Strange thing is that if it's a fake there should be other fakes like it, but i can't find those... Anyway as a final double confirmationI'm going to have the inside checked, just to be sure.

Oh I see

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Never seen that Dial made in China

Quote from uhrmehl

the Dial and the case can be a " Ministerio de la Defensa, Venezuela"

Probably not really. The dial shown is not an original Orfina dial.

the Dial and the case can be a " Ministerio de la Defensa, Venezuela"

Marcus is right. This copy is probably not an original BUND model. Especially the dial is not an Orfina dial.

The circumstances with the "original caseback" and the name and "its number" on it are probably nonsense in this sense.

Hi Maarten,

I think the tachymeter bezel and the french french day (MAR - Mardi, MER - Mercredi) disc make it unlikely that this watch is a BUND.

But let‘s hear, what the profs like cooljam of travis1963 can say.

Marcus

Hello forum members,

I'm searching for answers.

I just bought myself a watch that seems to be a porsche design military orfina, but I'm not sure.

I don't have the original case back. The story is that the original owner didn't want to sell the back plate because his name and number are on it.

I don't know if that is true, but I like to believe it.

I hope you alle can shine a light on what I bought.

Kind regards, Maarten.

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Wenn das der Lance Thomas ist mit seiner Watch Co in Californien, dann ist das eine illustre Geschichte.

Er hat inzwischen eine Handvoll Räuber in seinen Laden in LA erschossen, nachdem er auch mehrfach von Kugeln getroffen wurde.

Gruß Konrad

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Hallo friends,

what does this guy Lance Thomas from California sell?

- fake parts fabricated in Asia without any relation to Omega

- new old stock Omega parts like Watchco Australia did

- parts from the original supplier to Omega.

All those straps ok, they are fabricated, to add an Omega logo is a not a big deal.

But the case for a Speedmaster Mk III, not very searched for, looks so good and has so specific parts, why should someone fabricate this from scratch as a fake?

Konrad Knirim